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		<title>By: Alfredoz</title>
		<link>http://www.deweyshouse.com/archives/2006/12/02/self-fulfilling/comment-page-1/#comment-136847</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfredoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some very valid points.

However:

We are allowed to care what kind of personalities are on our team. To tell us not to is a diffeent kind of narrow assessment. Of course we can leave room for final judgment when he arrives, but Drew has been openly disliked in every clubhouse he&#039;s played for.  He has invited public scorn for twice making overtly mercenary decisions - first with the Phils and then with the Dodgers.  The reality is that few players behave as greedily as the stereotype would have us think. But Drew helps mainatain the stereotype. 
 We&#039;re encouraged to invest in good guys when their skills are not as special as advertized.  Look at Billy Mueller - good, but the most overrated &#039;underrated&#039; player in memory. Yes, Drew will post an OPS around .900, and play a good right field. But it won&#039;t suddenly make him a likable guy. Mo Vaugh put up colossal numbers for the Red Sox, but I couldn&#039;t get past his shameless self-promotion.  I never liked him.  Schilling is the same way. I&#039;m grateful hew stapled his ankle together, but it doesn&#039;t make me like him.  It sucks not haveing affection for your players. Mike Greenwell groused and whined and did it with passion, and I couldn&#039;t help but like him.  Coco didn&#039;t deliver last year, but it was impossible not to root for him. It matters.  Not nearly as much as great production, but it still matters.  

We invest our hearts and souls into these teams.  It doesn&#039;t give us free reign to state our irrational or emotional perspectives as fact.  But it does allow us to wish for people we can genuinely like.  It is a fundamental part of baseball and baseball lore.  Far be it from me to defend a windbag like Ryan, but don&#039;t please don&#039;t suggest we&#039;re all operating without the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some very valid points.</p>
<p>However:</p>
<p>We are allowed to care what kind of personalities are on our team. To tell us not to is a diffeent kind of narrow assessment. Of course we can leave room for final judgment when he arrives, but Drew has been openly disliked in every clubhouse he&#8217;s played for.  He has invited public scorn for twice making overtly mercenary decisions &#8211; first with the Phils and then with the Dodgers.  The reality is that few players behave as greedily as the stereotype would have us think. But Drew helps mainatain the stereotype.<br />
 We&#8217;re encouraged to invest in good guys when their skills are not as special as advertized.  Look at Billy Mueller &#8211; good, but the most overrated &#8216;underrated&#8217; player in memory. Yes, Drew will post an OPS around .900, and play a good right field. But it won&#8217;t suddenly make him a likable guy. Mo Vaugh put up colossal numbers for the Red Sox, but I couldn&#8217;t get past his shameless self-promotion.  I never liked him.  Schilling is the same way. I&#8217;m grateful hew stapled his ankle together, but it doesn&#8217;t make me like him.  It sucks not haveing affection for your players. Mike Greenwell groused and whined and did it with passion, and I couldn&#8217;t help but like him.  Coco didn&#8217;t deliver last year, but it was impossible not to root for him. It matters.  Not nearly as much as great production, but it still matters.  </p>
<p>We invest our hearts and souls into these teams.  It doesn&#8217;t give us free reign to state our irrational or emotional perspectives as fact.  But it does allow us to wish for people we can genuinely like.  It is a fundamental part of baseball and baseball lore.  Far be it from me to defend a windbag like Ryan, but don&#8217;t please don&#8217;t suggest we&#8217;re all operating without the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, nice site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, nice site.</p>
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		<title>By: Sully</title>
		<link>http://www.deweyshouse.com/archives/2006/12/02/self-fulfilling/comment-page-1/#comment-136835</link>
		<dc:creator>Sully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I would say regarding that trend is that 2004 is a big outlier.  He will probably never be that good again.

2005 &amp; 2006 look very similar to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I would say regarding that trend is that 2004 is a big outlier.  He will probably never be that good again.</p>
<p>2005 &#038; 2006 look very similar to me.</p>
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		<title>By: M Kielty</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Kielty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 03:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sully,
While reading your summery on JD, I couldn&#039;t help but notice the regression in the last three years:

2004 .304/.436/.569
2005 .286/.412/.520
2006 .283/.393/.498

While these are still great numbers in any given year, is there any concern that this will continue or do you account that to injuries/ ballpark? Would you expect it return to 2004 numbers playing at Fenway protected by their lineup?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sully,<br />
While reading your summery on JD, I couldn&#8217;t help but notice the regression in the last three years:</p>
<p>2004 .304/.436/.569<br />
2005 .286/.412/.520<br />
2006 .283/.393/.498</p>
<p>While these are still great numbers in any given year, is there any concern that this will continue or do you account that to injuries/ ballpark? Would you expect it return to 2004 numbers playing at Fenway protected by their lineup?</p>
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		<title>By: Sully</title>
		<link>http://www.deweyshouse.com/archives/2006/12/02/self-fulfilling/comment-page-1/#comment-136833</link>
		<dc:creator>Sully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 01:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can search on BP for their respective figures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can search on BP for their respective figures.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 00:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to bother you, but how did you get the WARP1 numbers for Manny and Drew?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to bother you, but how did you get the WARP1 numbers for Manny and Drew?</p>
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		<title>By: Sully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 02:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone for the kind words.

Chad, I think skepticism of this signing would not be unfounded.  Drew has missed A TON of time over the years and has not performed very well in the post-season.  Further, even though he is younger than Manny, he is no spring chicken.  I just haven&#039;t really seen anyone take the time to advocate the anti-Drew side convincingly or unemotionally.

Until someone steps up and does that, at this time, for this team&#039;s needs and in this market, I think it&#039;s a sensible signing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone for the kind words.</p>
<p>Chad, I think skepticism of this signing would not be unfounded.  Drew has missed A TON of time over the years and has not performed very well in the post-season.  Further, even though he is younger than Manny, he is no spring chicken.  I just haven&#8217;t really seen anyone take the time to advocate the anti-Drew side convincingly or unemotionally.</p>
<p>Until someone steps up and does that, at this time, for this team&#8217;s needs and in this market, I think it&#8217;s a sensible signing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 23:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent Job. Bravo. Way to shed some light on the situation. Another reason as to why people should start turning to bloggers for information rather than the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent Job. Bravo. Way to shed some light on the situation. Another reason as to why people should start turning to bloggers for information rather than the media.</p>
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		<title>By: JET</title>
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		<dc:creator>JET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Just stumbled across your site. Well written. Well thought out. Logical and reasoned. Love it. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Just stumbled across your site. Well written. Well thought out. Logical and reasoned. Love it. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: CFinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>CFinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sully - While I remain wary of this signing, I appreciate your perspective, and I hope you&#039;re right. And thanks for not calling me a delusional interweb hack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sully &#8211; While I remain wary of this signing, I appreciate your perspective, and I hope you&#8217;re right. And thanks for not calling me a delusional interweb hack.</p>
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